RE: bus stop = tesco loading bay

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Fortunately, perhaps, I was out with my camera phone yesterday, and got some pictures of this - In fact, I have a whole load of pictures of illegal parking and illegal loading (out of hours, or on the double yellows or in the bus lane), and Simon's email spurred me to post them online - If you really think the problem was solved by sending a few traffic wardens in in the morning for a few weeks, take a look at http://mailspaces.com/spaces/spasm and have a look under the "A lorra lorra lorries" heading. (PS feel free to join the group to get live feedback from your constituents on the issue)

Things have got worse, not better - Tesco does use some slightly smaller lorries than before (although Superdrug was unloading from a full sized HGV on Friday morning on the double yellows at 8.10), but they are still turning up when then are supposed to not be there - And then half the time, they are not even unloading, just waiting.

The biggest problem remains the parking, though - The loading bay, the bus stop, and the double yellow lines are used by non-St Margarets residents to park while they shop or get cash - The loading bay is a very attractive looking stopping point, and of course, once one car is there, then a whole load of others stop

I said when the loading bay was put in that no-one would read the little sign on the lamp-post saying "Commercial Vehicles only", and they don't.

A radical solution would be to fence the whole stretch from Broadway Avenue to the pedestrian crossing by the station, with one smallish gap to allow bus customers on and off, and perhaps a locked gate by the loading bay, with keys only for Tesco, Broadway florists, Superdrug and Gymoboree. And a big sign on the fence saying that parking is available further up the road. God forbid that people should have to walk a few paces to Tesco.

Somewhere in my filing, I have a photo of the then-prospective Lib Dem Councillors standing with Dr Cable outside Tesco, in support of the local campaign run by one Nigel Cannings - Amazingly, once in power, things have not got better but worse.

I did, once, threaten to lie down in that loading bay, and get the cameras in to film me being crushed beneath the wheels of industry - Do I really need to do that, or can we a) have some action, and b) the public meeting we were promised to assess the "temporary" extension of the loading bay

Many thanks

Nigel Cannings

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Subject: bus stop = tesco loading bay
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 22:34:32 +0100

Councillors,

At 11.30am today (Sunday) I witnessed probably the worst congestion outside tesco since they opened.

A tesco lorry was parked (legally) in the loading bay and was unloading goods to the store, at the same time another lorry (GK02 XVE) was parked part in the bus stop and part on the zig zag crossing. This lorry was unloading bread to the store. A bus arrived and had to unload its passengers into the road as the driver was unable to gain access to the bus stop.

I went into tesco and spoke to the manager (Hari), he confirmed that both the lorries were delivering to tesco. The manager said he was aware that the bread lorry should not have parked on the crossing or the bus stop.

Ten minutes later another lorry arrived and this time used the bus stop as a waiting bay whilst the original tesco lorry was still in the loading bay.

So councillors, can I ask what are you doing about this. It is clear that time and time again tesco make empty promises to the council and the council fails to take action when they break them. I recall that when the tories were in power that you were very keen to start a petition to force the council to take action against tesco - are you still as keen?

Simon.

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> Subject: RE: bus stop = tesco loading bay
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:09:02 +0100
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> To: ...; ...; ...; ...
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>
> Dear Ms Capizzi,
>
> We are discussing these issues with the appropriate Cabinet Members and
> Council Officers next week to see if we can finally resolve these issues
> satisfactorily and answer the points raised. Will get back to you after
> that.
>
> Regards
>
> Cllr Geoff Acton
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elaine Capizzi [mailto:...]
> Sent: 07 August 2006 13:36
> To: ...; Cllr Ben Khosa; Cllr Philip Morgan; Cllr
> Geoff Acton
> Cc: ...; ...;
> ...; ...; ...
> Subject: RE: bus stop = tesco loading bay
>
> Dear All
> I totally endorse the information given in this message.  I have noted
> that
> the bus stop is persistently  blocked, that people park dangerously on
> double yellow lines, etc. On Sunday, I saw one car parked in the bus
> stop
> for at least 20 minutes, double parking on St. Margaret's Road, etc.
> etc.
> I have only stopped recording and emailing my observations because it
> seems
> utterly futile...and yet someone will be seriously injured soon; then
> both
> the Council and Tesco can be held liable because they have been
> regularly
> advised of the hazards they are creating by their complete inaction and
> actions respectively.  I am reminded of the futility I experienced in
> reporting severely damaged pavements outside the 4 house development on
> St.
> Margarets Road  (I think it was 218); I reported and reported it - as
> did
> others to no avail.  An elderly neighbour tripped, fell giving rise
> severe
> head injuries and subsequently died--because neither the developers nor
> the
> Council took any action.  Do we have to wait for serious injury or death
>
> before there is action on this?
>
> Rather than Nigel's suggestion, I re-iterate my two suggestions -- made
> innumerable times on the website and to Councillors and add one (made at
> the
> Local Area Consultation)
> 1. The Tesco ATM should be moved inside the store, with the signage for
> it
> much less prominent.
> This is one of the key factors in enticng motorists  to quickly pull
> over,
> facing the wrong way, blocking the bus stop and delivery slots.  This
> would
> have the added advantage of reducing the persistent crime associated
> with
> this cashpoint -- which incurs considerable cost in policing.
> And of course Tesco did put this in without planning permission;the
> granting
> of  retrospective planning permission only encourages its contempt for
> restrictions placed on it.
> 2.  Place a CCTV camera covering the entire area and acutally
> prosecute
> those who park in the bus stop and on double yellow lines.
> 3. Seek an ASBO against Tesco to stop its violation of delivery times
> and
> use of the bus stop for deliveries.  Their continued disdain for parking
> and
> planning laws constitute one of the most serious cases of ASB in the
> area.
> Again, they should not be exempt from the laws that govern the rest of
> us.
> I am glad that Simon and Nigel continue to take this seriously and will
> try
> to support them. I would like specific answers to why three suggestions.
> Thank you
> Elaine Capizzi
>
>
> >From: "Nigel Cannings" <...>
> >To: "Cllr Ben Khosa" <...>; "Cllr Philip
> Morgan"
> ><...>; "Cllr Geoffrey Acton"
> ><...>
> >CC: "Customer Services (Buses)" <...>;
> >...; "Peter Mahnke" <...>; "Elaine Capizzi"
>
> ><...>; "..." <...>;
> >"simon chapman" <...>
> >Subject: RE: bus stop = tesco loading bay
> >Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 10:28:32 +0000
> >
> >Fortunately, perhaps, I was out with my camera phone yesterday, and got
>
> >some pictures of this - In fact, I have a whole load of pictures of
> illegal
> >parking and illegal loading (out of hours, or on the double yellows  or
> in
> >the bus lane), and Simon's email spurred me to post them online - If
> you
> >really think the problem was solved by sending a few traffic wardens in
> in
> >the morning for a few weeks, take a look at
> >http://mailspaces.com/spaces/spasm and have a look under the "A lorra
> lorra
> >lorries" heading. (PS feel free  to join the group to get live feedback
>
> >from your constituents on the issue)
> >
> >Things have got worse, not better - Tesco does use some slightly
> smaller
> >lorries than before (although Superdrug was unloading from a full sized
> HGV
> >on Friday morning on the double yellows at 8.10), but they are still
> >turning up when then are supposed to not be there - And then half the
> time,
> >they are not even unloading, just waiting.
> >
> >The biggest problem remains the parking, though - The loading bay, the
> bus
> >stop, and the double yellow lines are used by non-St Margarets
> residents to
> >park while they shop or get cash - The loading bay is a very attractive
>
> >looking stopping point, and of course, once one car is there, then a
> whole
> >load of others stop
> >
> >I said when the loading bay was put in that no-one would read the
> little
> >sign on the lamp-post saying "Commercial Vehicles only", and they
> don't.
> >
> >A radical solution would be to fence the whole stretch from Broadway
> Avenue
> >to the pedestrian crossing by the station, with one smallish gap to
> allow
> >bus customers on and off, and perhaps a locked gate by the loading bay,
>
> >with keys only for Tesco, Broadway florists, Superdrug and Gymoboree.
> And
> >a big sign on the fence saying that parking is available further up the
>
> >road.  God forbid that people should have to walk a few paces to Tesco.
> >
> >Somewhere in my filing, I have a photo of the then-prospective Lib Dem
> >Councillors standing with Dr Cable outside Tesco, in support of the
> local
> >campaign run by one Nigel Cannings - Amazingly, once in power, things
> have
> >not got better but worse.
> >
> >I did, once, threaten to lie down in that loading bay, and get the
> cameras
> >in to film me being crushed beneath the wheels of industry - Do I
> really
> >need to do that, or can we a) have some action, and b) the public
> meeting
> >we were promised to assess the "temporary" extension of the loading bay
> >
> >Many thanks
> >
> >Nigel Cannings
> >
> >
> >From: ...: ...;
> >...; ...:
> >...; ...;
> >...; ...; ecapizzi@hotmail.comSubject: bus
> stop
> >= tesco loading bayDate: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 22:34:32 +0100
> >
> >
> >
> >Councillors,
> >
> >At 11.30am today (Sunday) I witnessed probably the worst congestion
> outside
> >tesco since they opened.
> >
> >A tesco lorry was parked (legally) in the loading bay and was unloading
>
> >goods to the store, at the same time another lorry (GK02 XVE) was
> parked
> >part in the bus stop and part on the zig zag crossing. This lorry was
> >unloading bread to the store. A bus arrived and had to unload its
> >passengers into the road as the driver was unable to gain access to the
> bus
> >stop.
> >
> >I went into tesco and spoke to the manager (Hari), he confirmed that
> both
> >the lorries were delivering to tesco. The manager said he was aware
> that
> >the bread lorry should not have parked on the crossing or the bus stop.
> >
> >Ten minutes later another lorry arrived and this time used the bus stop
> as
> >a waiting bay whilst the original tesco lorry was still in the loading
> bay.
> >
> >So councillors, can I ask what are you doing about this. It is clear
> that
> >time and time again tesco make empty promises to the council and the
> >council fails to take action when they break them. I recall that when
> the
> >tories were in power that you were very keen to start a petition to
> force
> >the council to take action against tesco - are you still as keen?
> >
> >Simon.
> >
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